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xhappy feetx · Nov 01, 2010, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by tealspikes

Do you folks plan on commentating other games as well or you gonna stick with MATs?

If the interest is high enough we can do whatever people want.

Malchior Devenholm · Nov 01, 2010, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Fantastic job, PvP community.

I'm in the process of watching every single video, and I love the enthusiasm in the commentary.

This serves as a bright new chapter in PvP history!

Motoko · Nov 01, 2010, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe

One issue I had, I think, was I there were times when you called folks by another name.

I could see this being a problem for new players when we have veterans who are very familiar with just about any person in the mAT and who happen to be commentating. (Lemming comes to mind).

So I think the commentators should just stick with the names that are on the teams when commentating, to help lessen the confusion.

I guess this is a good example of how tightly knit the more competitive PvP GvG of GW is, since we really all do go by one names for each other, even if the name is not included in the actual character name.

The bigger the PvP+GvG player base is, the harder it is for everyone to keep up with player names. Which is a good thing

Reverend Dr · Nov 01, 2010, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko

So I think the commentators should just stick with the names that are on the teams when commentating, to help lessen the confusion.

I disagree entirely. I feel that it is more important to be able to recognize the players behind the avatar than just an avatar in a game. If players are swapping around simple commentary that XXX is playing as YYY should suffice.

For the youtube files character names don't matter as you cannot make them out.

For commentary it should be fine so long as the commentators remember to comment on handles vs avatar name.

Motoko · Nov 01, 2010, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

I disagree entirely. I feel that it is more important to be able to recognize the players behind the avatar than just an avatar in a game. If players are swapping around simple commentary that XXX is playing as YYY should suffice.

For the youtube files character names don't matter as you cannot make them out.

For commentary it should be fine so long as the commentators remember to comment on handles vs avatar name.

It depends on your objective as a commentator (what you hope to achieve with your job) and the goal of the listener (whether watching you tube or watching the game while they commentate it fresh).

If you want to go completely unbiased you might as well say "Player 4 on the Red Team/Guild Name".

Names are something more advanced in my opinion that shouldn't be a priority to new PvPers.

You have to remember your target audience. Of course I would prefer my name to be referred to as Moto/Motoko or "Pizza Pasta And Vodka" to be referred to as Psycool/Psy. Again, I am not your target audience. You are not the target audience as well.

We should all keep that in mind.

Meridon · Nov 01, 2010, 09:05 AM // 09:05

Watching the commentary videos re-ignited my interest in GvG, and I'm sure has sparked the interest of many people unfamiliar with the format.

Don't forget that interest alone isn't enough. We need to get actually get those interested playing the game as well. Perhaps Guru could organize an open free-to-enter GvG session on Mumble for those who wish to learn from the experienced first-hand?

vOddy · Nov 01, 2010, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Watching the videos now, and man, this game is awesome. Those blocks are epic, lol

xhappy feetx · Nov 01, 2010, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by Meridon

Watching the commentary videos re-ignited my interest in GvG, and I'm sure has sparked the interest of many people unfamiliar with the format.

Don't forget that interest alone isn't enough. We need to get actually get those interested playing the game as well. Perhaps Guru could organize an open free-to-enter GvG session on Mumble for those who wish to learn from the experienced first-hand?

With the relaxed requirements, I'm sure if you hopped on IRC, many people would be up for playing, I'm not a big IRC guy but you can usually get me in game and sometimes I'll be on there.

Demigod Heracles · Nov 01, 2010, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Hello

Hates and I actually commentate on a lot of matches for fun. We have quite a few saved up, and will be commentating on most(if not all) of the remaining monthly matches. We just finished doing 2, info will be posted shortly. We have a bit of a different style - we focus more on the macro, the mindset of the teams, what people will try and accomplish, how they move around the map etc. - much less play by play. Would people be interested in having us upload/continue to commentate on some of these games?

fowlero · Nov 01, 2010, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by Demigod Heracles

Hello

Hates and I actually commentate on a lot of matches for fun. We have quite a few saved up, and will be commentating on most(if not all) of the remaining monthly matches. We just finished doing 2, info will be posted shortly. We have a bit of a different style - we focus more on the macro, the mindset of the teams, what people will try and accomplish, how they move around the map etc. - much less play by play. Would people be interested in having us upload/continue to commentate on some of these games?

I thought we'd gotten away with our match vs [rA] not being commentated lol. Here's a good example of how not to split.

Malchior Devenholm · Nov 01, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Demigod Heracles

Hello

Hates and I actually commentate on a lot of matches for fun. We have quite a few saved up, and will be commentating on most(if not all) of the remaining monthly matches. We just finished doing 2, info will be posted shortly. We have a bit of a different style - we focus more on the macro, the mindset of the teams, what people will try and accomplish, how they move around the map etc. - much less play by play. Would people be interested in having us upload/continue to commentate on some of these games?

I say, why not, Demigod.

I'm sure those willing to learn the ways of GvG will absorb anything here.

Reverend Dr · Nov 01, 2010, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko

We should all keep that in mind.

The target audience, as far as I see, are the people that are going to be watching several matches. The target is not the people that are going to be watching only one match.

Calling players by the current avatar name is good for people that are only going to be watching one match and then will never watch one again. If they are going to be watching more than one match it is far better for them to be able to recognize players across matches.

Wuhy · Nov 01, 2010, 10:00 PM // 22:00

meh. a year late for me.

gl tho

ItsJustMe · Nov 01, 2010, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

The target audience, as far as I see, are the people that are going to be watching several matches. The target is not the people that are going to be watching only one match.

Calling players by the current avatar name is good for people that are only going to be watching one match and then will never watch one again. If they are going to be watching more than one match it is far better for them to be able to recognize players across matches.

Personally, I'm fine either way, just don't leave it to me to guess who you are referring to. If you give me a few 'player x, aka. yaya' I'll pick it up quick enough. What I witnessed, tho, was just a reference to another player without any designation.

I think it's great that the community is that tight, I just wanted to point it out for future events.

Demigod-

I'd love to see them. Not sure how I'd feel about watching a match twice, however. I might like to see the play by play, then a 'macro' of the game, but I just don't know. I'm leaning toward seeing a different game, as 1 hour to see the same match might lose my attention.

Either way, I'm kind of a Obs-junkie, so I say the more the merrier.

Thanks guys.

Motoko · Nov 01, 2010, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

The target audience, as far as I see, are the people that are going to be watching several matches. The target is not the people that are going to be watching only one match.

Calling players by the current avatar name is good for people that are only going to be watching one match and then will never watch one again. If they are going to be watching more than one match it is far better for them to be able to recognize players across matches.

As the program progresses through the next few months I can agree with you.

But when people's focus is going into matches between completely different teams and just learning the basics of GvG and the builds involved. Names are an extra that aren't necessary to complete the picture for the audience.

Space · Nov 02, 2010, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Thanks to all involved, was pretty interesting. Would be cool to see Asp back commentating as he is obviously very good at explaining tactics at a high level while still being accessible to dunces such as myself.

Gruff · Nov 02, 2010, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Good job on the commentary and making it available for people to enjoy on youtube, keep up the good work.

Reverend Dr · Nov 03, 2010, 07:45 AM // 07:45

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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko

As the program progresses through the next few months I can agree with you.

Lets just make that happen then.

Also in regards to the OP, new players, please come on IRC. Haven't had much activity there from anyone new. We don't bite [hard]. Really we're more than willing to talk. If we talk enough we'd probably get talked into starting up some sort of group.

chiuna · Nov 03, 2010, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Thank you guys for the commentary. Not sure I'll be getting into pvp (no pvp char slot) but it was fun to listen to anyway!

xhappy feetx · Nov 12, 2010, 04:55 PM // 16:55

To clarify, we will be doing mAT Coverage again this month, more details to follow.